Wisconsin sucks

12/07/25

First, Wisconsin climate is cold and we know this. It ain't the climate itself that makes this place a dump, it's the people running things. Which is so dark and cold when you consider how humans also have unpredictable and annoying climate to cope with. The local forecaster drops painful storm announcements on residents hours before they happen and lies saying it was that way prior. You'll check a three, five, or seven day forecast and it'll say nothing of it. Then morning of or late night before suddenly there's this blanket of nine inches of snow expected. And the dumb locals act the same way. Residents drive like they've never seen snow or ice before and most of them lived in it their entire lives. Driving fast where they shouldn't and going too slow where they should be faster. They do this on purpose to be annoying and that's the largest thing you notice about Wisconsin and it goes on all year long. You get some moron who mergers on interstate going really slow, so big rigs and everyone else have to slow and notice them, then once they put their drink down and actually pay attention to driving floor it going over 80.

If you hate daylight savings it's especially annoying here. Cause these clown cars use it to eat and sleep more and they were doing that way too much before. Every store is head to toe junk food and if you wanna make something healthy good luck finding ingredients. Groups in this turd hole literally bully and single out anyone not making bad choices like them and believe they represent the entire globe. You get to speaking about anything and take notice to the language. Don't be surprised if they word it like: Everyone does it this way. As if residents in this godforsaken fart fest represent all humans around the globe?

I read somewhere Wisconsin was in top five for dew that changes often.  I think North Carolina was number one, but they have more to do on the gorgeous coast. Plus there is more people.  If you want that sort of thing in Wisconsin you must travel to Chicago.  Big difference between people in Chicago and other large cities around the globe like it.  The crime is especially bad in Chicago.

Second, if you don't have children or belong to a circle you will get lonely, alienated, and stereotyped in Wisconsin. I've noticed people, who do stuff in this state make it a point to isolate folks in this category and treat them like dirt. Wisconsin is huge on raising families, so much they seem obsessed. South central is maybe worse. All business, except for bars is modeled around this ideology. Some cities, you can't even find a 9 o'clock movie. Except on weekends, or summer months when kids are out of school. This place is super boring and exactly like watching their sports, slow, and methodical. On Halloween, you can't find a haunted house and they've closed most. Nearest one in south central, is Rockford and a few in Milwaukee. They have all this odd stuff here for soft people. I'm talking trails, corn mazes and stupid activities for children.

Websites and other sources love to point out celebrities from this area, as if that's a good thing? Ever seen all the issues with drugs, treatment toward women, corruption, and other crime connected to celebrities? Hollywood, athletics, politics, and other subjects typically elevating an individual in the United States always walk hand in hand with plenty negative. See country in any rush to require reforms, or to make sure an individual is free of obvious negatives prior? See the schools willing to? I wouldn't exactly be bragging about celebrity success, or them originating from this state. If anything, that proves how much it sucks. Because examine how those same celebrities desired such things. How they poured so much into admiration elsewhere and just had to be on that pedestal with all attention on them.  Also look at the greed and what they pay themselves in comparison.  When you measure what they give back, against what was rewarded, it speaks volumes. One could also argue, that a lousy upbringing motivates someone to work harder. That coming from pure filth, abusive surroundings and lousy air drives them more. Ever consider that has something to do with their so-called success? See the same celebrities rushing to come back to home state? See them trying to help it when clearly it has suffered economically and politically? If they enjoy such an impossible task and are indeed loyal to the area, why flee it so hard? Why not come back and fight the waste, spending, nepotism, cliqueness and other bad dragging it down?

You also rarely witness people in public in their 30s or 40s. Residents sleep a lot, especially after football season and march madness. Wisconsin is a huge couch potato state, enjoys bundling up and staying indoors. Which is fine some nights, but daily? When I was on West Coast, or down South, I had no trouble meeting people and making new friends. Growing up in Wisconsin and being back here after leaving, in comparison, difference is night and day. It's gloomy and leaves you freaked, or depressed. If you're a consultant, or any other profession, which allows flexibility to set hours and work from home you'll hate it here. People will judge and not believe you let alone understand how that life is possible. They don't comprehend anything beyond own lives and firmly believe anything else is bad. Plus they're nosy and backstab like crazy. Janesville and Milton are absolute worst. I call it talebearerville, Judasconsin.  If they trespass, or look in your windows don't bother calling police. Chances are they're friends.

Wisconsin consists mostly of small to middle sized business and they almost never hire consultants or someone who works like that. They simply don't have a need for it, because of size. And this is why they can't understand it. Such a thing is mostly utilized in state of the art facilities for large corporations, which don't exist in this part of world. Except for a few outdated facilities in Chicago and Detroit. Most business, is family owned and a nightmare to work for. It's like a good ol' boy network, guilty of nepotism and unfair hiring practices. The State says it's equal opportunity, but when corporations like General Motors, Kraft, Chrysler and others were around applications were given to friends and family only.  The railroad still does same thing.

Working for state itself has an unusual hiring setup.  It's mostly who you know and based on appropriate answer to one question that has nothing to do with job itself. They and public know and like it this way. These people are odd then wonder why state government is so messed up. They're basically tossing a turd at wall and if it sticks, you're hired.

Schools grant preferential treatment to friends and family.  Growing up in this state, I witnessed it first hand in academics, and athletics.  Complaints to upper level leadership resolves nothing and makes it worse.  If you get on their bad side, which is easy to do they'll blacklist you. People here carry heavy chips on shoulders and never forgive. I figure this is hurting them in many aspects of life, but good luck conveying it. No one listens and many give illusion they care. But midway through you realize it's an act.

Atmosphere in this state frowns upon a lifestyle with flexibility, or great pay. Doctors and lawyers get away with it, because they work themselves to death, and are desperately needed. This area in a lot of ways, harasses, and encourages you to except a life of mediocrity, so you'll be like surroundings. Perhaps it's jealousy or envy, but either way it is real. Someone should inform their teachers, education isn't only about what you know, but how quickly you can answer the question. You ask many Wisconsin residents something and it takes them forever to compile a response. I don't think any of them were timed in classes and mostly they pretend not to hear you, so you'll repeat yourself. Just so they can slow it down and be annoying. Interesting how everyone in this state has a hearing problem, but elsewhere like Illinois they hear just fine. These guys love to feign ignorance, annoy, dawdle, steal, breadcrumb, lie asses off, and exploit circumstances for personal gain.

When I lived elsewhere, people totally had same distractions, like kids and their jobs. But it never stopped them from recognizing obvious. Most people in Wisconsin don't seem to give a damn, or think how it can backfire.

Third, driving in this state is a major nightmare. Not only does it possess worst designed roadways, but it has bad drivers. I'm talking about people who think safety is all about driving extremely slow or only signaling. Then same people other times of day will go really fast and make no sense. If they aren't totally dense and dumb, they're vindictive and dangerous. Many try to enforce view point by utilizing own automobile as a weapon. They'll either hog a lane, swerve at you, or speed up so you can't pass. Something else they're notorious for, is leaving an extreme amount of space in front or approaching their stop really slowly. It takes them forever to arrive at a full stop. Some assholes enjoy stopping well before their actual stop, then pulsing forward slowly to be annoying. In cities, where intersection traffic lights are not synced, as most are in Janesville especially this is a major problem. Because it causes unsafe scenarios and bottlenecks. They're also not fanning out and utilizing all lanes. Motorists will bunch up in one lane, because they're afraid to merge or switch when approaching turn. It is the most hilarious and idiotic display of driving you'll ever see. All police do is obsess favorite traffic violations, which is usually something that involves low risk for them, that or do things to benefit cronies. If no one in their circles benefits and they do lift a finger elsewhere, it'll be based on stupid and assumptions. I estimate a lot of accidents were written off as nonsense and made up. Many insurance companies don't even listen to police anymore and do own thing, it's usually about numbers. Police could resolve a lot of it, but you only see in large numbers when they desire a quota. And it's masquerading safety typically in local tabloids or news networks, but I invite you to observe it closer. You see them allowing things to bend a lot, which spirals out of control and gives what you have today. Some days, flow is easily 20 over and law is nowhere to be found. I know they see it from above and sit on cans doing nothing. Also, when people see enforcement going five over they think it's ok for them to do it. Monkey see, monkey do.

Something else obvious, is people don't recuse themselves from a case, if personal affiliation with either party. You see it with judicial, enforcement, and layers. And it impacts things, which might be why speeding and other is overlooked in some accidents.  It let's them maneuver everything to theirs and friends advantage. You see this with other violation and court cases. Some departments totally do this to avoid own bad behavior from being seen by justices, so they can continue violating. I've been blamed and had citations stacked before when it was never my fault and for no reason at all. After investigating months and years later, I had no trouble finding conflict of interest between officer, department, and other parties.  Whatever counsel is available in area, doesn't touch it, and cites no case. But lawyers outside area don't feel same way. In state, counsel lacks litigation experience on several fronts and their courts tend to encourage settlement. Yet fact remains we regularly see similar cases raised elsewhere and their goofy definition of capitalism is responsible. The greed from private ownership bends individual ethics. I ain't saying I'm opposed to capitalism, but groups are performing a lousy job mitigating and have a Walt Disney definition of the word.  They do for a lot of language and tend to dwell on favorite parts and while ignoring rest. That, or disregarding own hypocrisy when preaching a cause.  It's all about them and what they want.

Four, medical is appalling. From human medicine to veterinary, it's extremely messed up. The University of Wisconsin Madison Veterinary program has taken money over years from biotech and governments to test on live animals. They supposedly shut it down, but I often wonder. Take time to research background and educational upbringing of your veterinarian. I last did this in 2017 and was amazed at volume of veterinarians from University of Wisconsin Madison alma mater only. Diversity of other programs was practically nonexistent.  Prices are also way high.  For the cost of an exploratory surgery on a feline at UW you can get a kidney transplantation, plus all kinds of follow up at UC Davis in California. Which first started the program on kidneys and are far more experienced. UW will take your money and act like they don't know what they're doing. I've witnessed them negligent more than once and show zero sympathy.   I think a lot of their positive reviewers are clinical only, or close family and friends. You got people reviewing themselves in all aspects of business in this state, which is unethical. Plus you see public evidence on social media of potential affiliation. Google leaves reviews up and never investigates all sides. I don't know of anyone who was ever contacted by them requesting evidence. Stuff is based off lies and hearsay. They typically choose business side of things and you practically have no rights.

There's also price gouging in human medicine in Wisconsin.  I one time went in for a scan, lab work, and brief five minute visit prior and they sent out a bill a week later in excess of $25,000 dollars.  They also split up things and are now outsourcing each section of medicine. And they want own payment individually, whether insurance is ready to pay or not.  They come after you for it and nail your credit.  All of this for something they don't technically work on anyway.  Think they share this prior to performing work? And they knew what area of body we were focusing on and suspected it. If they didn't work on that region, why waste ones time and rip them off? There was recently an article in NBC about a similar experience. Wouldn't you know it, writer shared exact same right here in Wisconsin at a hospital in Milwaukee.  They eventually negotiated down on cost, but they too were ripping patient off.  I've never witnessed the problem as bad as it is in Wisconsin. And you never see federal get involved.  Oh, you read of them typically investigating folks down south. But never up here.  In fact, this area gets a lot of handouts from uncle sam. So they're rewarded for ripping people off and potentially bending the law?  Why should it matter what an administration in Washington does for voters, if municipal, county, or state takes it in ways never mentioned? You see it all the time and neither party mentions in debates. When you get a chance, examine what Wisconsin contributes to federal. Look at their GDP and how much of it are contracts with Uncle Sam. Think that doesn't put pressure on federal departments to show leniency? Nice moral compass.

Five, state lacks large cities. Two biggest are probably Madison and Milwaukee. And this isn't saying much. Madison is probably best and has a better organized government, but both lack size. Which matters for kids and young adults. Activities are limited, especially key times of year. Another large problem, is contractual help for home services. Outside of Madison and Milwaukee, you're at mercy of a system of contractors who only help cronies. It's impossible to get anyone from larger areas to travel to you. They all talk, believe whatever other contractors tell them and have a strong tendency to blacklist and mistreat outsiders based off hearsay. Contractual help in this state and northern Illinois, is among worst in country, in my view. If they aren't misrepresenting themselves, they're ripping customers off badly on things like labor cost and I've caught them profiling to determine costs. If a street has nicer homes, interesting how another is charged less when property value lower. I tested it on a few houses using friends.

Only negative I found with Madison, is how they deal with psychology and their roads are similarly an odd design like the state. They keep jeopardizing public safety and overall psychology to experiment dumb ideas in design. Also, the city sends psychology calls to an outsourced layer that have zero background on the subject and not experts. I did some digging and the area taking calls from city mental aren't experts in the field or even studying those fields in college. That's really reckless and can risk individuals with certain conditions. It can also send someone innocent down the wrong path and destroy them. Only experts in the field under contention should be diagnosing and such an action isn't done easily requiring all kinds of doctoring by subspecialty. Even then it can be largely debated by other experts in the field. The city treats the subject like they're candy bars in a vending machine with low respect for medical privacy. Diagnosis is not arrived at so easily and lightly and it certainly isn't done in such a fashion publicly or over a phone off a few simple details. I also see this online in comments, games and social media by individuals and it's wrong.

Back to subject of builders in Wisconsin, a lot of building contractors have services advertised as business or residential, which is totally misleading. If you're a resident and have an appointment scheduled, it'll get bumped if a business comes along and needs them, which are also their friends. Whether you were there first, or not. Which happens most of the time. The area needs people, who strictly work residential only, or run their schedules first come, first serve. You have this in larger cities, which Wisconsin is largely deprived of. Largest problem with this area is they run everything cliquey making it all about their friends and family.

Six, state legislature is stacked Republican and huge Trump supporters.  They believe in bizarre and unsubstantiated garbage.  Huge police state, that supports law enforcement. Right, or wrong.  Most deny science and are extreme.  They think pandemic isn't real and viruses are made up liberal tools.  Most northern counties vote red and are a part of the problem.  Numerous lawmakers and law enforcement have been cited for stuff and still keep their jobs.  Oversight boards are like illusion of justice and can be stacked with friends or fellow union people. Some tabloids did research on cops fired for bad behavior, that successfully landed jobs in neighboring counties. The state has poor ethics and might be the worst. State integrity investigation in 2015 gave the state a D grade for things like transparency. Some outside organizations for years have argued the state doesn't turn over information on law enforcement accountability and other issues. The state has an open records law, but I invite anyone to use that law with some police departments. I've witnessed departments when you request information on cases block parts of reports because of internal policy contrary to state open records law. Which really negates the purpose of requesting the data and can obscure police corruption.

Seven, taxes are insanely high here. Not only does Wisconsin have high property and income tax, but fees for things like gas tax, registration, miscellaneous fees on utilities, starting and maintaining a business, etc.  I've also witnessed them attempt double and triple dipping on things, that should be covered in taxes like emergency services, or showing up at scene of an accident.  Which is insane, considering how high existing taxes are and how many different kinds of taxes. It ain't only rate of taxes, amount, but also duration.  They'll be asking it each year, whereas some states only require registration every so many years.  Lot of gouging in ways rarely mentioned in tabloids, or big name reviews you often see in well known tabloids .  

I've also had issues with residents in a lot of cities letting pets out unattended. You purchase a nice property, come to appreciate beauty outdoors and nature doing its thing. Then some asshole moves in with an indoor/outdoor cat they don't take care of. Janesville is notorious for this and its police do nothing.  These pets screw up people's yards, chase away rabbits and other animals homeowners enjoy, spread problems and sometimes send wrong signals to leaders.  What the hell is point to ordinance when leaders don't enforce?  Oh, but they're right there willing to collect when tax check is due, or to spend more on garbage. It's also animal cruelty, because a feral cat knows to climb a tree if a predator is pursuing. Domesticated cats, that also spend time outdoor don't understand this, and get eaten alive.  Problem is especially bad when they attempt to flee and encounter a property with dead ends. I'm talking someone who installed yards with wooden fence, that have no way for them to pass, if danger, which Janesville has plenty of. Rock County leaders are sick and a part of the problem.   

You see so many online defending area. They speak of its beauty, things to do, and many advantages. I disagree and see it as bad for your health.  These very same people are con artists deep down and don't fall for their fake kindness up front. Down the road if you test this you'll understand why I said that. Their true nature is obscured beneath several carefully designed layers.

Eight, cost of realty and rent is too high.  Particularly when you bench against circles, climate, activities, surroundings, health, cliques, and safety. I see rent prices in cities like Milwaukee, and Madison similarly priced with like communities of warmer climate elsewhere. Not only nicer, but better employment, more to do, no state tax, better relationships and ethical public. I can't emphasis ethics point enough, because they're bad in Wisconsin. Their home prices are absurd in cities like Madison and Waukesha. Janesville is catching up, won't stop spending, has high utilities, highest mill rate and insanely historic high water rates. Not only that, Janesville city council is notorious for wasteful and bias spending.  For years they have thrown all kinds of coin at their downtown, while ignoring needed elsewhere.  The state does nothing and pretends like they can't. In fact, the state helps the problem. This city also unfairly pours all kinds of greenbacks at activities specifically tailored to own children interests, while ignoring needed elsewhere hurting tourism.

Nine, people drive me up the wall. All they do is obsess sports, drinking, and family. They're also largest fakes, liars, and incredulous opportunists you'll ever know. Huge problems with backstabbing, stereotyping, and gang stalking. And it's near impossible to make friends, because existing circles are tightly closed, and extremely overanalytical. Even if you're lucky and they accept you. I guarantee you'll hate it and be miserable. Because they're nothing but opportunists. When chips are down and you need em for emotional support they're no where to be found. But when they need something you're suppose to drop what you're doing. They only use you, or lead you on in case something better comes along. And when it does you won't hear from them. You have to constantly watch possessions and spouse, because minute you turn your back they're right there messing with it. If you defend yourself and speak up, they'll flip it on you and gaslight. Make you out to be toxic one, because you stood up for yourself and principles.

Something else, is if you move on from them and don't speak again they'll stalk, harass endlessly and spread all kinds of rumors. Anyone normal would move, because it's obviously odd, but watch what they do.  You'll get groups gang stalking, notes appearing in systems not true about you, unfair treatment by public services connected to them, etc. I had an accident and officers and department connected was exhibiting all kinds of trails to past circles. On social media, you could see recent public correspondence and past toxic circles liking their activity. More or less implying recent collaboration, or affiliation. When you see such a thing after suspicious behavior by a reporting party no way will you not suspect. Especially when an attorney, independent from it all, also criticizes. 

This place sucks and when clocks roll back Daylight saving time in November, it's like a light switch from bad to horrendous.  Pandemic hitting in 2020 only made worse and much has closed down.

When Facebook first began, I was searching profiles and examining information provided. You'd be surprised at amount of conflict.  Some positions are held immorally and potentially illegal. I remember reading about stories investigated and tried in south for similar setups.  Again, you never hear about it happening up here.  Judge in Rittenhouse trial, nailed it when subject came up about gun he had for age and crossing border way he did.  Way state law is written has many holes and makes you wonder if intentionally done that way. Basically so circles can benefit. 

If someone is obfuscating true nature behind several layers of opposite behavior that makes it manipulation and hypocritical, which many in Wisconsin are doing face to face on first few encounteres and on the web. Large differences than way it's described in reviews and tabloids I've seen on places to live or most walkable cities. The characteristics those networks and writers use fails to consider a lot of science that regularly gives Americans a tight wedgie, hurts their finances and devastates individual psychology.

Another example why I rarely do business with anyone in this state:

We purchased a house in Janesville in the summer of 2007 and since it has been one nightmare after another dealing with building contractors, plumbers, electricians, arborist, landscapers and horticulturist. Many whom should know better, older and been in the industry for decades. I brought in several trees already fully grown, because we didn’t wanna wait and had large issues with a company near. Only one nursery conducted their actions professionally, but the tree mover we used, recommended action that would later hurt us. He’s been kind, offered fire wood and even has given business to family. But his advice on trees, it’s damn hard to see the knowledge and experience this man should have working that many years in the field. The problem with what he did was it failed to consider possibilities of others and I even said that at the time he was recommending it, but he assured me no one would ever challenge his recommendations as it’s illegal. And the problem with the law and this is particularly the case today, is it’s pointless if no one is enforcing it. He recommended installing the trees not only on lot line, but in the middle of the lot between our house and company behind. Which if you look at it would be a problem if someone purchased this unfavorable lot next to us where all the water flowed. Not only did someone buy that lot years later, but they built it higher and pushed all their runoff and all the water on our side of street to my backyard. This tree mover comes out and looks at it and says: “This is wrong. This is illegal.” So he reaches out to someone he knows who’s a builder and also knows the chief of police. They supposedly meet and talk about the subject, which the chief sits down and discusses with another officer. Because he was the owner of the company responsible for designing it this way and was doing it on the side of police work. This chief finally gets back to tree mover friend and tells him his hands are tied and it’s a civil manner. Tree mover apparently indicated he couldn’t believe it and that the city woudd be ok with this.

A landscaping company on southside of Janesville told me that technically waterflow issues fall under jurisdiction of the state DNR and to bring it to their attention. All they did was mostly avoid and contact someone at the city, who also said it was civil manner. None of these layers did what they’re implied to be able to do to the public. Which is what they pitch at home buyers encouraging this area as a place to buy, establish and raise a family. Which as you can very well see has hidden surprises. Not to mention how rude everyone is masquerading opposite at initial first encounter. There’s a sinister and immoral nature about everyone I’ve dealt with and I do not recommend it to anyone. It reeks of corruption, clandestine and cahoots. Anyway, I had practically zero luck locating any counsel in area with experience on these issues and only one historical case where someone won. But that didn’t matter, because once again my wife didn’t want to pursue anything and acted like a pushover. She did this with every single case which looks suspicious. Especially when you consider her remarks when angry and other behavior in the romance over the years. The tree mover would go on behaving as if this friendly neighbor, who couldn’t believe how dishonest and bad service has become today. I point this out because hypocrisy would eventually surface. See he had a setup where he kept things separate from primary residence and a piece of land alongside that. And in all the time we first met when we did chat subtle details would emerge in conversation astonishing me they were never mentioned before. We got to talking and he knew my background in technology and mentioned some issues with his surveillance. He wanted to know if I could take a look sometime, so eventually I did. He had an older DVR not networked running all the time and didn’t remember how to access it. When I looked at it the screen wouldn’t go on after moving the mouse, which most do because they have a sleep option. I had him call his nephew over, who I thought was quite rude and in no rush to communicate directly to me. He pushed the power button and the screen came on no problem. Keep in mind, the color on this monitor indicator amber, looking down at it.. Which is indicative of technology in sleep mode. I didn’t reboot the monitor like I should have and felt it would be best if he called his nephew, who apparently has worked with this setup before. This way if any issues two minds are better than one.

Not long after his nephew pushing the power button to get the screen to come on he suddenly loses interest in me looking at anything further and rushes the conversation to an end. He later leaves me a voicemail after this experience saying he’s not going to proceed forward with upgrading anything, because he’s getting older and doesn’t think the cost or effort is worth it. Which I completely understand, but then why everything prior verbally? He also indicated that the reason the DVR was only recording two weeks, like I explained to him and not a month like it apparently used to, was because he had other stuff on the hard drive. Which makes no sense, considering this is an isolated system and only surveillance that was installed by a third party long ago. I don’t think he quite bought what I told him about the DVR only going back two weeks on video footage. When I examined the video log, it indicated this and you couldn’t find anything beyond two weeks. This guy also says on my voicemail he would remove private stuff off the drive of this dvr to free up space, so it could record a month instead of two weeks like it used to. Which again makes no sense, because this dvr is a standalone machine, doesn’t have windows, or any operating system on it the user could benefit by performing other activities. And I didn’t point this out after him saying that, because what good could come from it? Additionally, even if something like he claims was accurate, any platform would point out to the user about space instead of abruptly reducing his ability to collect video from one month to two weeks exactly. That is a large difference on a DVRs capability and it just doesn’t make any sense. Weeks go by, I call him and on same conversation he informs me he added another camera, which totally goes against what he told me on voicemail about not upgrading, or dropping anymore money on the subject because of trouble, cost, and his age. Which is I see as disrespectful and dishonest, because like AI points out when someone gives you a false reason for not doing a job and then secretly proceeds with it themselves or hires someone else, they are being untruthful about their intentions.

This discrepancy between their words and actions can be seen as a form of manipulation or avoidance.

The feeling of being "insulted" stems from several aspects of this situation: *Dishonesty: They were not upfront with you about their true reasons (e.g., they found a cheaper option, or they preferred to do it themselves). *Lack of Respect: They didn't trust you enough to tell you the truth, suggesting a lack of respect for you as a professional or individual. *Duplicity: They acted friendly to your face after the fact, creating an additional layer of insincerity that can feel very jarring when you learn the truth.

AI said: It is common and reasonable to feel frustrated and misled when you encounter this kind of two-faced behavior. It erodes trust and makes future interactions difficult.

After this and a couple other experiences when I look back on the tree situations with my neighbor, I’m seriously wondering about whether any of it happened way it was described? Because his original recommendation on planting trees where he did was wrong and I was technically right suspecting it might be a problem and said that. Both he and others assured me it wouldn't be a problem and it was. Nothing was offered for my losses and no apology.

This and several other experiences is a prime example of the nonsense I have been dealing with after being back in Wisconsin now. They’re deceitful, sleazy, backstabbing thieves who clearly have no respect for rules or authority and think they’re above the law.

Know what’s amusing about many of these individuals? They can have all kinds of people in their community backing them up, registered on organizations like Better Business Bureau, which is nothing more than a private outfit not overseen by any independent, responsible and impartial entity to guarantee moral conduct. They indicate it's nonprofit as do many organizations, but if they're potentially disrupting the flow of valuable information to the public to assist either friends, or a partisan view on business, how is that not financial gain indirectly behind many layers?

Individuals like I explained in above example, will have all the necessary things to shut down anyone reporting something wrong, but when you forensically examine closer and test the relationship in a way none of those other people supporting them did, you’ll see something else entirely and negative surfacing. I theorize that emerges more with people who aren’t their close circles and family.